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It only takes a minute to sign up. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? KJV, Ergo, the Father must be corporal, having flesh and bones, and the Father must be Jewish, too.
Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. The phrase "he who has seen me has seen the Father" refers to the works of the Father being seen in the words and deeds of Jesus Christ, who is God in flesh cf: John ,14; Colossians , 1 Timothy The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. In other words, they are united and this union they have is a unity of nature.
The Father and the Son are of same nature John ; John We see the Father when we see the Son means we see the Son in unity of nature with the Father. This reveals that John recalls John and even John Both John and Hebrews are not speaking of a physical image. The phrase "he who has seen me has seen the Father," taken literally , seems to suggest that the Father looks exactly like the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet, elsewhere, it is written that "God is spirit" John , and "a spirit does not have flesh and bones" Luke Hence, there appears to be a contradiction.
I contend it is literal in meaning, but not truly contradictory in light of the following points:. John chapter 1 equates the "Word" with "God" "the Word was God," v. That "Word became flesh So there is immediately both an equating of the Being of God with the incarnated Word, the Son, while also the beginning of the distinction of Father the begetter vs.
Son the begotten. This begotten one is recognized by some as the promised Messiah v. No one has ascended to heaven [cf. Jn ] but He who came down from heaven [cf. Jn ], that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. So Jesus is asserting that in some sense, even as he stands talking to Nicodemus, He who is the "Son of Man" that came down is also still "in heaven. Yet there is still a distinction of Persons, for "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand" v.
John is the most explicit statement made by Jesus up to this point in the Gospel that indicates the designation of "Father" is equated to "God" also though it is certainly implied earlier in the gospel with , so the same Being of John This is the same passage that mentions "God is Spirit":. John chapter 5 shows that Christ was equating His works to the Father's works, and that the Jewish religious crowd picked up on this as Jesus equating Himself with God, found in v.
Unity of Father and Son, yet with distinction of roles, persists in Jesus' explanation in v. He also begins asserting that the Hebrew Scriptures speak of Him v.
Specifically, in light of the Isa reference above, note his statement here in v. He is not likely simply saying as a typical "representative" of the Father, but again making reference to the Messianic fulfillment of "His name will be called Everlasting Father. I believe we have come far enough in John's writing to make some conclusions now about what Christ means in by.
The Person of the Father is dwelling within the incarnate body of the Person of the Son along with the Son. There is no distinction in their Being , for they are both God. The human incarnation of God, the Messiah, has the Father Who is Spirit alone dwelling fully within the body that the Son explicitly took on, and as such, looking upon that body literally means a person is also looking at the Person of the Everlasting Father through the image of the Son.
The Father is dwelling both in the Son and in heaven, just as the Son is both incarnate and in heaven—they are inseparable in their Being, 1 though distinguishable in their Persons, and it is God , as Being , through the Person of the Son, who by the incarnation became "corporal, having flesh and bones And yes, other Scripture indicates indeed that "the Father looks exactly like the Lord Jesus Christ," for Hebrews states:.
I would also disagree that your interpretation is the 'literal' interpretation of this phrase. Regardless, literal translations are often troublesome in the Bible anyway. Hermeneutics is the theory or methodology of text interpretation. In , Methodist scholar Albert C. Outler rightly observed that all Hermeneutic interpretations use some or all of these 4 steps in their interpretations whether the interpreter knows it or not.
Therefore, let us apply this method to your question. You have already provided a major piece of the foundational step in this method by providing the scripture, which Wesly and Outler considered to be the first authority on how we should interpret a text.
In this text, however it is not so obvious whether this statement is literal in terms of God having a body or not. As such, I will provided some additional scriptures for consideration.
Obvbiously, I am unable to speak to your personal revelation or experiences, but according to Outler, each square of tradition, reason, and experince were to be give equal weight in order to definitely answer a question, so if I am able to make a compelling case on two of three points, your answer will be clear.
In order to answer you question whether Jesus looked like the Father was corporeal and had a body of flesh and bones we should begin by looking at a few other scriptures. First, John makes it clear that not even Jesus had a body of flesh and bones at first. The word "Became" tends to indicate that Jesus was first something other than flesh and bone and then became flesh and took up residence among us. Philippians reiterates this idea stating,. You should have the same attitude toward one another that Christ Jesus had, who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking on the form of a slave, by looking like other men, and by sharing in human nature.
Because Jesus is described as first being in the form of God, but then becoming like other men in Philippians, this indicates that the form of God is not the same form as Man and that God instead became or was incarnate as man in the form of the man Jesus Christ. From the above scriptures as well as Hebrews we know that Jesus' body was identical to all men's bodies like you and I. This is important, because if his true form were a corporeal body human, like yours or mine then Jesus and by extension God would be completely human with all of the limitations that entails including but not limited to finitude, our inability to control or create the universe and our corrupt nature.
All of these things disqualify normal humans from being Messiah and Saviour and would disqualify Jesus as being savior too were he merely human and not God incarnate as human. Clearly Jesus' true form must not be Human, but instead he must be in the form of God like the father.
Thus we can conclude that Jesus is not claiming to have the same body as God the father, but instead the same spirit as God the father. Wesley wrote that generally, traditional evidence is weakened by time due to the scrutiny of so many scholar through the ages. Therefore, of that evidence or reasoning which withstood this test of time Wesley wrote,. Do not undervalue traditional evidence. Let it have its place and its due honour.
It is highly serviceable in its kind, and in its degree. The origional Nicene Creed of A. Jesus Christ, the Son of God But those who say The Son of God is created This indicates that Jesus was regarded as having more than a man's body, but instead was of the same substance as the spirit of God as early as A. This view has persisted until recent centuries with A.
Tozer noting on page 8 of his book Knowledge of the Holy that,. It is to break down the wall, infinitely high, that separates That-which-is God from that-which-is-not-God. To think of creature and Creator as alike in essential being is to rob God of most of His attributes and reduce Him to the status of a creature.
Many scholars have noted that the agenda of John seemed to be to prove that Jesus was, in fact, God with things like the 7 " I AM " statements in the book of John harkening back to Exodus and many similar argumentitive devices. The continuing dialog of Jesus in John chapters 13,14, and 15 was spoken to comfort his disciples through what was to be their toughest time, his arrest and crucifixion. One of the themes of comfort was to emphasize the unity between himself and the Father.
Yet the disciples knowledge of the deep things of God, at that time, was imperfect. John Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. It goes without saying how crucial having faith in Christ is in our relationship with the Father. You cannot have true faith without Christ. But here Christ is not simply requesting his disciples belief, they'd confirmed that several times. He was saying that in the coming troubles, and in spite of their feelings of doubt, their comfort should rest in Him, and His words, as much as in the Father in heaven.
Jesus had told Peter that he would deny him three times some time before ch And later Philip demands some manifestation of the Father to ease his worried mind.
So these were times of intense worry. But back to vs John In my Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. John And if I go and prepare a place for you, I come again, and will receive you unto myself ; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Here Jesus takes their minds from the earthly things to heavenly things. Again, notice the unity of purpose in his words. He assures them the things to be done in heaven will be done by none other than by Him. And those things that were to be done are purposed in His unity with the Father. Here Jesus alludes to something he'd told his disciples several times before, his path to the cross and subsequent ascension to heaven. Although they'd heard Him speak of the cross before they either did not understand it, want to understand it, or downright rejected it as Peter did in Matt Peter was rebuked in Matt 16 because he denied the way salvation was to come, the cross.
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Matthew 11:27 Cross References
All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him. Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me. I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
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Jesus said to him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip? Mark He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? John ,20 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him…. John And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
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